Posts by aligot ripounsous

This Nobel committee is incoherent. They award Obama the Peace Prize even before he has started any war, whilst Kissinger received it after he had put an end to the war he himslf had extended to Cambodia, with the Khmer rouge bloodbath that ensued.

Hope this prize is not a somber omen, peace loving Woodrow WILSON had to engage the US in WW1 (the French said great thanks to him and Gen Patton at the time, btw).

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Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

by Bethelite Elder in

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friends

a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

aligot ripounsous

You just can't give it up, can you?

Oh yes, I've been able to, free of any hatred or resentment because, all in all, this organization hasn't done much harm to me. I understand , though, that some others are more bitter, according to their own experiences.

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How Much Do WE Know About Africa

by snowbird in

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i realize that i run the risk of running this genre into the ground, but please indulge me this time.

what is the former name of these african countries?.

benin - .

aligot ripounsous

Snowbird,

Hardly anyone remembers, even in France, that République centrafricaine was, under french rule, Oubangui Chari. It was part of a regional administrative structure called Afrique équatoriale française, comprising Gabon, French Congo (Brazzaville), Oubangui Chari and Chad, which we'll agree is hardly equatorial. On the other side was Afrique occidentale française with Côte d'Ivoire, haute Volta, Mali (called French Sudan at the time), and a few others.

The cherry is for you, together with the cake.

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Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

by Bethelite Elder in

jw
friends

a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

aligot ripounsous

Elders are given the option to send a certified letter inviting a suspected publisher to a JC in the "Flock" book.

All right, ATJ, but is this provision still running ? There was a time when the WTS was not so concerned with court cases, so they would readily be formal, although one could rightly have found this taste for procedure stupid , as what was at stake were private, not official matters.

Nowadays, I will be very surprised if the WTS hasn't discreetly added beside its Flock book some directions to elders to the effect that they leave into the hands of potential suers as little written material as possible. That is most likely the reason why, around me, summoning to JCs has always been done during visits or even on the phone.

Apart from that, I've had my fair share of ignorant and narrow minded elders, but none of them, over 30 years, has ever been stupid and cunning enough to send a blank sheet for a JC.

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Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

by Bethelite Elder in

jw
friends

a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

aligot ripounsous

Sorry, Daniel-p, I just can't believe that an elder, PO at that, can summon to a JC with a certified letter. Even if it were so, I can't see a PO insert a blank sheet in the envelope, because :

- he will have to report to his hierarchy about his handling of the JC .

- whatever one may say, he has a conscience.

You are free to believe it, I am free not to, according to what BE writes, I don't have to know him personally for that.

Besides, as I posted earlier, BE has hardly delivered on this site the insider knowledge that one would expect from a bethelite elder. All that he has written could have previously been gleaned on this site or on others, I find that his posts are just regurgitation. Can't help, not meaning to be provocative or insulting.

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I made it!!!

by purplesofa in

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to fifty!!.

never dreamed life would be as it is now, .

there are times i did not think i would make it.

aligot ripounsous

If life is great, birthday the greater , Purps.

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Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

by Bethelite Elder in

jw
friends

a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

aligot ripounsous

The chairman/ PO sent him a certified letter with a blank sheet of paper inside; to supposedly invite him to a Judicial Committee.

Bethelite Elder,

IMO, this simple phrase reveals your ignorance of how this organization works. Summoning someone to a JC is informal, and certainly not by means of a certified letter. It dismisses you as a credible poster, let alone a bethelite elder.

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I'm Still Torn About the Blood Issue

by palmtree67 in

when i left the org.

the blood issue wasn't an issue for me.

my best friend was on the blood committee for years and i could see many cases where either blood wouldn't have saved the person anyways (like when a person is in a serious car accident and their liver is in pieces), or blood actually killed the person and/or hindered recovery.. then my little nephew got leukemia.

aligot ripounsous

I have mixed feelings about blood transfusions. Although I'm not attending meetings anymore, I feel that God's command has, somehow, saved quite many JW lifes, if only when people would, 30 years ago, get HIV infected blood and JWs were protected by their religious stand. Also, and this is not religious, blood trade is scandalous, since the raw product is procured for free from well intentioned people or bought cheap from the poor, and sold at high price, even when the sellers know full well that it is infected. A political scandal ravaged France about 20 years ago for this reason.

Now, one has to admit that the current stand of the WTS on this subject, that is accepting fractions, has little to do with religious integrity and more with legal, and therefore financial, interests.

In conclusion, I don't know.